Hi all!
When I attended ÖMS tournament in Mautern I got to talk to several players, some of which expressed an interest for the upcoming tournament in Zagreb. It was simmilar at the tournament in Ljubljana.
So, here are some info about it and Army Composition system. Pleas note that Warriors of chaos are still being tested, and some other changes might occur; nothing big though.
Zagreb's 2250pts tournament Agram Arena Winter that will take place either 13th and 14th, or 20th and 21st of December. Full Rules pack will be published shortly. It will cover 'gray areas' of each army seperatly.
Army Composition
Maximum penalty an army can have is -5. This penalty is deducted from sportsmanship score after round 6.
Please note that 5 is not a big penalty and that it doesn?t matter much if you have -2 or -4. The point of this army comp is to define ?legal lists?, not to interfere much with the overall score.
Army Comp is made in order to allow competitive lists while eliminating the cheese. We hope that army lists will be very different from each other, since some players might bring a strong magic phase, other will take close combat, shooting heavy lists, or a balanced ?little bit of everything? approach.
Judges reserve the right to add or subtract a penalty score as they see fit! Since Army Comp can hardly be perfect, if judges spot a loop holes in the rules, they may give additional penalty. Also, if a list clearly goes out of it?s way to be nice and fluffy, judges can grant it bonus AC point. In such occasions, players will be notified of the extra changes in due time before the tournament.
2.1 Characters (only the highest penalty):
Total points spend on characters is between 750 and 849 pts.: -1
Total points spend on characters is between 850 and 949 pts.: -2
Total points spend on characters is between 950 and 1049 pts.: -3
Total points spend on characters is 1050 pts. or more: -4
* All mounts are counted under characters cost, however Anvil of Doom, Cauldron of Blood and Casket of Souls are not
2.2 Units:
Every same Core slot after the second, except rank and file infantry without shooting: -1
Every same Special slot after the second: -2
Every same Rare slot after the first: -3
Every unit and single model with Fly or Float rule after the second: -1
Each war machine (including Skaven weapons teams) after the second: -2
Each unit that has basic AS 4+ or better AND US 2+ per model*, after the third: -2
* Do not count single models (like chariots) and characters
Each chariot (or unit of chariots for tomb kings) after the second: -2
* Do not count chariots used as character mounts
Each unit of Skirmishers after the third: -1
* Units with Fly rule also count as skirmishers
Every army that has more units with shooting and war machines than units without shooting: -1
* Do not count characters and chariots with missile weapons, but do count each war machine, monsters and all characters with magical bows or arrows
2.3. MAGIC
- Always count the basic PD and DD
- Each power die (PD), after the seventh: -1
- Bound Items/Spells, one use only Bound Items (regardless of power) and Power Stones = 1 PD
- Each Dispell die (DD) army generates after the seventh: -1. Scrolls count as 1 DD each. Scrolls with secondary effect count as 2 DD.
Tomb Kings count Power Dice like this:
- do not count the basic two power dice
- Tomb Prince 1 PD
- Tomb King 2 PD
- Liche Priest 3 PD
- Liche High Priest 5 PD
- Casket of Souls 3 PD
2.3 Special penalties and Exceptions:
- All Large Target characters or characters mounted on Large Target mounts: -1
- All magic Banners of 75Pts or more: -1
Beasts of Chaos:
- Units with Raiders special rule for the purpose of this Army Composition are counted as Skirmishers
- Penalty for 3rd chariot is -1 (with a penalty for 3rd same core unit it is -2), for 4th is -2 (total of -5)
Dark Elves:
- Penalty for PD is counted after 6th
- Ring of Hotek counts as 2 DD
- Sacrificial Dagger counts as 2 PD
- Do count chariots used as character mounts for Chariot penalty
- For every unit of Black Guard after the first an additional: -1
- Second Hydra generates a total of -4 penalty
- Black Dragon gives an additional: -2
Deamon Legion:
- Penalty for PD is counted after 6th
- Daemonic Gifts are revealed at the start of the game just like WYSIWYG items
- Penalty for core troops applies no matter if units have shooting or not
- For every unit of Flesh Hounds after the first an additional: -1
- Second unit of Flamers generates a total of -4 penalty
- Bloodthirster gives an additional: -1
Dogs of War:
- For every Pegasus mount after the second an additional: -1
- For every unit of Maneaters after the first an additional: -1
- One character may buy a 5+ ward save Talisman for 30 points
Dwarfs:
- Anvil of Doom: -1 and counts as a war machine
- For every unit of Hammerers after the first an additional: -1
- Gyrocopter does not count as a war machine or as a shooting unit for the purpose of this Army Composition.
- Master Rune of Balance counts as 1 DD
Empire:
- Griffon does not generate -1 as a Large Target mount
- Steam Tank: -2
- Steam Tank counts as a war machine and a 4+armor save unit as well as suffering it?s basic penalty. For the purpose of calculating victory points at the end of the game Steam Tank counts as a monster
- Each detachment counts as a separate choice ( E.G. an army including a unit of Crossbowmen and two Crossbow detachments would suffer a penalty)
- Aldred's Casket of Sorcery counts as 1 PD
- Rod of Power counts as 2 PD
- Count Arch Lector as level 3 mage and Warrior Priests as level 1 mages
- War Altar: -1 and counts as 2 PD
- Mortar and Rocket Battery count as -1 for war machine penalties (For example 1 Cannon and 2 Mortars generate -1. Also, 2 Cannons and 1 Mortar generate -1.)
High Elves:
- Griffon does not generate -1 as a Large Target mount
- Banner of Sorcery counts as 2 PD
- Every same Special slot after the first (expect Tyranoc Chariots, Silver Helms and Shadow Warriors) an additional: -1
- Annulian Crystal counts as 1 DD
- Penalty for Rare slots applies after 2nd
- Moon Dragon gives an additional: -1
- Star Dragon counts as a rare slot and gives an additional: -2
Lizardmen:
- Slann of the Second Generation counts as generating 6 power dice for the purpose of this Army Composition
- Diadem of Power counts as 2 PD
- For every unit of Kroxigors after the first an additional: -1
- Two units of Salamanders suffer a total of -4 penalty
Orcs and Goblins:
- Penalty for war machines is applied after the 3rd machine
- Morks Spirit Totem counts as 2 DD
Skaven:
- Grey Seer counts as generating 5 power dice for the purpose of this Army Composition
- Warpstone Tokens do not count as power dice
- Penalty for skirmishers is applied after the 4th unit
- For every unit of Jezzails after the first an additional: -1
Tomb King:
- Hieratic Jar counts as 1 Power Die for the Liche Priest and 2 Power Dice for the Liche High Priest
- Second Catapult generates a total of -4
- Third Liche Priest gives an additional -1 penalty
Vampire Counts:
- Penalty for PD is counted after 6th
- Bloodline Powers are revealed at the start of the game just like WYSIWYG items
- Penalty for core troops applies, no matter if units have shooting or not
- For every unit of Black Knights after the first an additional: -1
- Double Rare slot: -4 instead of -3
- Black Periapt counts as 1 PD
- Skulstaff counts as 2 PD
- Corpse Cart normally counts as 1PD, with Balefire it also counts as 1 DD
- Zombie Dragon gives an additional: -1
Warriors of Chaos:
- Hellcannon: -3
- Giant if he has Mark of slaanesh: -1
- Tendrils of Tzeentch counts as 1 PD
- Skull of Katam and Book of Secrets count as 1 PD each
- Do count chariots used as character mounts for Chariot penalty
- Each unit of Chaos Knights after the first an additional: -1
- Chaos Dragon gives an additional: -2
Wood Elves:
- Treeman: -1
- 2nd Treeman suffers an additional penalty and is therefore illegal
* Treeman and Treeman Ancient are considered to be the same unit type for the purpose of this army composition.
- Wand of the Wych Elm counts as 1 DD
- Green Dragon gives an additional: -1
Thank you for your time, and hope to see you in Zagreb!
When I attended ÖMS tournament in Mautern I got to talk to several players, some of which expressed an interest for the upcoming tournament in Zagreb. It was simmilar at the tournament in Ljubljana.
So, here are some info about it and Army Composition system. Pleas note that Warriors of chaos are still being tested, and some other changes might occur; nothing big though.
Zagreb's 2250pts tournament Agram Arena Winter that will take place either 13th and 14th, or 20th and 21st of December. Full Rules pack will be published shortly. It will cover 'gray areas' of each army seperatly.
Army Composition
Maximum penalty an army can have is -5. This penalty is deducted from sportsmanship score after round 6.
Please note that 5 is not a big penalty and that it doesn?t matter much if you have -2 or -4. The point of this army comp is to define ?legal lists?, not to interfere much with the overall score.
Army Comp is made in order to allow competitive lists while eliminating the cheese. We hope that army lists will be very different from each other, since some players might bring a strong magic phase, other will take close combat, shooting heavy lists, or a balanced ?little bit of everything? approach.
Judges reserve the right to add or subtract a penalty score as they see fit! Since Army Comp can hardly be perfect, if judges spot a loop holes in the rules, they may give additional penalty. Also, if a list clearly goes out of it?s way to be nice and fluffy, judges can grant it bonus AC point. In such occasions, players will be notified of the extra changes in due time before the tournament.
2.1 Characters (only the highest penalty):
Total points spend on characters is between 750 and 849 pts.: -1
Total points spend on characters is between 850 and 949 pts.: -2
Total points spend on characters is between 950 and 1049 pts.: -3
Total points spend on characters is 1050 pts. or more: -4
* All mounts are counted under characters cost, however Anvil of Doom, Cauldron of Blood and Casket of Souls are not
2.2 Units:
Every same Core slot after the second, except rank and file infantry without shooting: -1
Every same Special slot after the second: -2
Every same Rare slot after the first: -3
Every unit and single model with Fly or Float rule after the second: -1
Each war machine (including Skaven weapons teams) after the second: -2
Each unit that has basic AS 4+ or better AND US 2+ per model*, after the third: -2
* Do not count single models (like chariots) and characters
Each chariot (or unit of chariots for tomb kings) after the second: -2
* Do not count chariots used as character mounts
Each unit of Skirmishers after the third: -1
* Units with Fly rule also count as skirmishers
Every army that has more units with shooting and war machines than units without shooting: -1
* Do not count characters and chariots with missile weapons, but do count each war machine, monsters and all characters with magical bows or arrows
2.3. MAGIC
- Always count the basic PD and DD
- Each power die (PD), after the seventh: -1
- Bound Items/Spells, one use only Bound Items (regardless of power) and Power Stones = 1 PD
- Each Dispell die (DD) army generates after the seventh: -1. Scrolls count as 1 DD each. Scrolls with secondary effect count as 2 DD.
Tomb Kings count Power Dice like this:
- do not count the basic two power dice
- Tomb Prince 1 PD
- Tomb King 2 PD
- Liche Priest 3 PD
- Liche High Priest 5 PD
- Casket of Souls 3 PD
2.3 Special penalties and Exceptions:
- All Large Target characters or characters mounted on Large Target mounts: -1
- All magic Banners of 75Pts or more: -1
Beasts of Chaos:
- Units with Raiders special rule for the purpose of this Army Composition are counted as Skirmishers
- Penalty for 3rd chariot is -1 (with a penalty for 3rd same core unit it is -2), for 4th is -2 (total of -5)
Dark Elves:
- Penalty for PD is counted after 6th
- Ring of Hotek counts as 2 DD
- Sacrificial Dagger counts as 2 PD
- Do count chariots used as character mounts for Chariot penalty
- For every unit of Black Guard after the first an additional: -1
- Second Hydra generates a total of -4 penalty
- Black Dragon gives an additional: -2
Deamon Legion:
- Penalty for PD is counted after 6th
- Daemonic Gifts are revealed at the start of the game just like WYSIWYG items
- Penalty for core troops applies no matter if units have shooting or not
- For every unit of Flesh Hounds after the first an additional: -1
- Second unit of Flamers generates a total of -4 penalty
- Bloodthirster gives an additional: -1
Dogs of War:
- For every Pegasus mount after the second an additional: -1
- For every unit of Maneaters after the first an additional: -1
- One character may buy a 5+ ward save Talisman for 30 points
Dwarfs:
- Anvil of Doom: -1 and counts as a war machine
- For every unit of Hammerers after the first an additional: -1
- Gyrocopter does not count as a war machine or as a shooting unit for the purpose of this Army Composition.
- Master Rune of Balance counts as 1 DD
Empire:
- Griffon does not generate -1 as a Large Target mount
- Steam Tank: -2
- Steam Tank counts as a war machine and a 4+armor save unit as well as suffering it?s basic penalty. For the purpose of calculating victory points at the end of the game Steam Tank counts as a monster
- Each detachment counts as a separate choice ( E.G. an army including a unit of Crossbowmen and two Crossbow detachments would suffer a penalty)
- Aldred's Casket of Sorcery counts as 1 PD
- Rod of Power counts as 2 PD
- Count Arch Lector as level 3 mage and Warrior Priests as level 1 mages
- War Altar: -1 and counts as 2 PD
- Mortar and Rocket Battery count as -1 for war machine penalties (For example 1 Cannon and 2 Mortars generate -1. Also, 2 Cannons and 1 Mortar generate -1.)
High Elves:
- Griffon does not generate -1 as a Large Target mount
- Banner of Sorcery counts as 2 PD
- Every same Special slot after the first (expect Tyranoc Chariots, Silver Helms and Shadow Warriors) an additional: -1
- Annulian Crystal counts as 1 DD
- Penalty for Rare slots applies after 2nd
- Moon Dragon gives an additional: -1
- Star Dragon counts as a rare slot and gives an additional: -2
Lizardmen:
- Slann of the Second Generation counts as generating 6 power dice for the purpose of this Army Composition
- Diadem of Power counts as 2 PD
- For every unit of Kroxigors after the first an additional: -1
- Two units of Salamanders suffer a total of -4 penalty
Orcs and Goblins:
- Penalty for war machines is applied after the 3rd machine
- Morks Spirit Totem counts as 2 DD
Skaven:
- Grey Seer counts as generating 5 power dice for the purpose of this Army Composition
- Warpstone Tokens do not count as power dice
- Penalty for skirmishers is applied after the 4th unit
- For every unit of Jezzails after the first an additional: -1
Tomb King:
- Hieratic Jar counts as 1 Power Die for the Liche Priest and 2 Power Dice for the Liche High Priest
- Second Catapult generates a total of -4
- Third Liche Priest gives an additional -1 penalty
Vampire Counts:
- Penalty for PD is counted after 6th
- Bloodline Powers are revealed at the start of the game just like WYSIWYG items
- Penalty for core troops applies, no matter if units have shooting or not
- For every unit of Black Knights after the first an additional: -1
- Double Rare slot: -4 instead of -3
- Black Periapt counts as 1 PD
- Skulstaff counts as 2 PD
- Corpse Cart normally counts as 1PD, with Balefire it also counts as 1 DD
- Zombie Dragon gives an additional: -1
Warriors of Chaos:
- Hellcannon: -3
- Giant if he has Mark of slaanesh: -1
- Tendrils of Tzeentch counts as 1 PD
- Skull of Katam and Book of Secrets count as 1 PD each
- Do count chariots used as character mounts for Chariot penalty
- Each unit of Chaos Knights after the first an additional: -1
- Chaos Dragon gives an additional: -2
Wood Elves:
- Treeman: -1
- 2nd Treeman suffers an additional penalty and is therefore illegal
* Treeman and Treeman Ancient are considered to be the same unit type for the purpose of this army composition.
- Wand of the Wych Elm counts as 1 DD
- Green Dragon gives an additional: -1
Thank you for your time, and hope to see you in Zagreb!
