Gerüchte über WE/OK von Ant Reynolds

    Da hätte ich noch ein "wenig"..schliesslich war GD Chicago :D


    - The Ogre Kingdoms is a mercenary, somewhat primitive culture. Long ago, the Kingdoms had directly bordered on Cathay, and the Cathayans were (unsurprisingly) getting the raw end of that deal. To deal with the Ogres, the Cathayans called down a Warpstone Meteor (like the one that hit Mordheim) which crushed 2/3rds of the old Ogre Kingdoms from existence. The entity contained in this chunk is called The Maw, and it is what the Ogres both fear the most and revere as their God.

    - Ogres are NOT Chaos. Ogres are NOT Greenskins (although Gnoblars are). Ogres are neutral in the grand scheme of things in the Old world.

    - Many Ogre units are 'Dogs of War', meaning that other armies can hire them on as per their army books. Ogre Bulls, Ironguts, Leadbelchers and Maneaters were all mentioned as being 'Dogs of War'.

    - Boxed Regiments for Ogres will get you 6 Ogre Bulls, or 4 Leadbelchers, or 4 Ironguts per box.

    - Ogre Bulls are your basic 'core' Ogre. Bull Musicians are called 'Bellowers' because they don't bother with instruments, they're just really loud!

    - To balance out the fact that Ogres are so ridiculously dead hard, they do not get rank bonuses. In order to win combats, ogre will have to rely on scoring lots of kills (which they should be really good at!).

    - If Ogres with 'Belly Plates' (Bulls and Ironguts for sure, maybe more?) charge into combat more than 6", they cause a single impact hit (base S of the Ogre) for each Ogre that makes contact. Ouch.

    - Ogre Clubs are kind of a trademark item for Ogres (like the Orc Choppa). If an Ogre isn't specifically armed with a different weapon, they are assumed to have an Ogre Club, and their attacks in hand-to-hand have an additional -1 save modifier. Note that anything can be an Ogre Club - it isn't the weapon so much as the fact that an Ogre is weilding it that makes the difference!

    - Ironguts are Ogres with greatweapons and heavy (?) armour. The strongest and meanest Ogres that hang out with the Ogre Tyrant (lord).

    - Leadbelchers are the cannon-packing Ogres (and hot damn the sprues are sweet!). The cannons come from all over the place - some are even traded for from the Chaos Dwarves - but they're packed with battlefield debris rather than cannonballs, so they fire a bit like grapeshot. 12" range, Artillery die to determine number of hits at S4, -2 save. The misfire possibilities that were described were very funny, but no details were given other than Phil saying: "Sometimes they work really well, and then sometimes you roll a misfire and it's not going so well anymore *smile*". Leadbelchers swing their cannons as Ogre Clubs in combat.

    - The Ogre Tyrant is the Lord of the Army. Three models due, all of them (?) had great weapons. It was strongly hinted that the Ironguts usually work as retinues of a sort for the Tyrants. All metal models.

    - The Maneaters are the models that you've see wearing clothing and equipment from various parts of the world. Some Ogres - being mercenaries - travel quite a bit, and they learn to sort of 'fit in' wherever they go. The Maneaters are Ogres like this. Their travels have toughened them up quite a bit... Rare slot, Stubborn, 4 attacks at S 5 each, for 80 points per model. The models are all metal, and are really, really cool (it was mentioned that there were at least 4-6 different ones, and I think I saw 4).

    - Butchers are the Ogre equivalent of a Warrior-Priest. There were at least 3 models, and all of them were great. They eat things, and use the power of The Maw to confer abilities on other Ogre units. Eat rocks to give a unit +1 T and Stubborn; eat stone troll meat to give a unit MR 2 and Regenerate; eat a bull heart to make a unit stronger (+2 S?). The problem of course with eating all of this rubbish, is that you can seriously hurt yourself in the process... all of this 'Gastromancy' has some pretty bad miscast results, and some other dangers as well depending on what the Butcher is eating.

    - Scrap launcha (or was it Scrapalauncha?) is the war machine we've seen pics of. The model is brilliant in person... the pics really don't compare. As the name would suggest the contraption launches scrap (discarded weapons and armour, buckets, nails, a few Gnoblars... anything really) at the enemy. Stat-wise it uses the big (5") template and has Killing Blow. Counts as a chariot, and the baby (yep, that's a tiny one!) Rhinox pulling it is a beast in combat. Phil seemed really keen on having Forgeworld do up an adult Rhinox. And yes, because it's a chariot it can be killed with S 7 hits. Ld 5 for the unit.

    - Your 'average' O.K. army will probably include about 20-30 Ogres, plus some Gnoblars and a bit of the other fancy stuff. 35 points was quoted as a price per basic Ogre.

    - Yhetees. I personally thought the models looked pretty neato up close, and the pictures of the painted ones seemed cool to me too. Yhetees are the evolution of some of the Ogres that were mutated by the Comet in prehistoric times. It was said that they have a "Profile a bit like a Troll really.". M 7", and they ignore difficult terrain. They use their icy breath to make blades on uprooted tree trunk which they then use as axes and maces... thanks to the magical nature of the ice these weapons count as being Magical.

    - Gorgers. Only one model (metal) was on display for them, but is was really cool. Looked like a bit of an inbetween stage for the Ogres and the Yhetees (not hairy, but more lanky and feral than the Ogres), and it had a blindfold on. A bit of story about these guys comes from Skrag the Slaughterer's background, and mentions that they live in a system of tunnels beneath the montains (which would explan why he'd need a blindfold when going out and about under the sun). Described in temper and general killing ability as being a cross between an Ogre and a great white shark

    - Slave Giants. No models were confirmed for release, but they weren't ruled out. The Ogre version of the classic O&G giant. Ogres hunt Giants for sport and prestige, and these are the enslaved Giants they take back to their palaces from a successful hunt. Becasue these Giants have been robbed of their illusion of invincibility to all things smaller than they are, they aren't as brave (or stupid) as their O&G counterparts. From the descriptions given they have long chains and manacles hanging from their wrists, and possibly masks or hoods of some kind.

    - Ogre Magic Items. Roughly half of the items will be Ogre original pieces, and the otehr half will be things they've nicked from other races.

    - Skrag the Slaughterer is the Butcher special character. He ate the local Tyrants' Gnoblars, and was sentenced to be cast into the tunnels below. Somehow Skrag survived (minus his hands, which are now big nasty hooked cleavers) and reappeared at a leter date, dragging a cauldron that was chained to his body. As Skrag kills and dismembers his enemies, his Gnoblar 'Chef's Assistants' gather the bits and throw them in the pot, making the brew more and more potent, and increasing Skrag's power. The more he kills, the more powerful he becomes. Skrag has Killing Blow.

    - Greasus Goldtooth is the Tyrant special character. The model really does look quite a bit like Fat Bastard. He once allowed himself to be eaten by a dragon so that he could kill it by cutting his way out (dragons are much softer on the inside!). He is the richest person (thing?) in the entire WHFB world. Thanks to a mix of bribery and threats, Greasus can intimidate his enemies before and during a battle. Little specific info other than most of the abilities require the enemy unit to have LoS to Greasus (he can't threaten themif they can't see him ), with effects including things like having d3 units test for Stupidity, while they consider doing nothing so that Greasus won't have their entire family murdered!

    - A bit about Gnoblar 'upgrades'. Sword Gnoblar gives the Ogre / unit with one an extra S 2 attack in combat. Luck Gnoblar lets you reroll one armour save (per turn?). Lookout Gnoblar (the little fellow in the crow's nest on the standard pole) allows the Ogre unit to use the 'Look out sir!' rule with a minimum of 3 models in the front rank rather than 5. (?) Gnoblar gives +1 to casting rolls for a Butcher.

    CORE
    bulls
    iron guts
    gnoblars

    SPECIAL
    scrapalaunchers (cannot have more scrapalaunchers than gnoblar units)
    leadbelchers
    yethees
    gnoblar trappers

    RARE
    gorgers
    maneaters




    Kudo go to Iced Crow & Thoth ..Ehre wem Ehre gebührt ;)
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    Also, 35 Punkte sind schon ziemlich heftig für ne Core Unit...das wären 5 DE Krieger...aber wenn man so rechnet, wärens die Oger glaub ich wert.
    Den Absatz übern Greasus Goldtooth hab ich rigendwie nicht verstanden...

    Aber der Butcher SC hört sich schonmal cool an!:D

    Aber das Rhinox-Vieh kommt auf jeden fall in meine Armee, vielleicht als Zugtier für meinen Streitwagen!:D Das sieht einfach zu genial aus, um es zu ignorieren...und das is erst die Babyausgabe! 8o 8o 8o

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    Wirds denn auch eine erwachsenen Ausgabe für das Rhiox geben ??? Ich freu mich schon auf den Riesen ( es gibt zwar ziemlich viele aber der Ogerriese wird bestimmt der coolste ) . 8o
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    Gnoblars zum Tee
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    Gnoblars juche !
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    Da ja schon länger das Gerücht eines Plastikriesen umherschwirrt und ganz zufällig plötzlich eine Menge Armeen einen Riesen einsetzen dürfen denke ich wird der "zufällig" bei Erscheinen des Armeebuches miterscheinen :D

    herzlichst
    Markus


    Edit::: Nur die Ruhe, da fließt noch einiges Wasser die Donau runter, bis es den gibt ;)
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    COOL 8o weis schon iergendjemand was der für stats hat, oder hat der die gleichen wie eine Mischung aus den bisherigen ( Khemri, Chaos, Orcs ) ? Wird der dann wesentlich weniger kosten oder nur so 5? ? Gibts schon iergendwo pics ?
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    Gnoblars juche !
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    komische army und definitiv net meins... klingt aber recht hart...

    und das +1 aufs casten bekommt inzwischen jeder magier standartmässig in einer neuen armee oder?
    Irgendwie find ich das die reine verarschung...

    realistisch stellt ein ogerspieler 2x 4 ogers ohne kdo oder sonstwas für ein regiment des gegners auf... eins für die front eins für die flanke... mit den 6" bewegung sind sie jedem regiment überlegen von bewegung und LP mässig sinds halt doch 12 LP die man da wegzubekommen hat..... (ganz abgesehen von 12 st4 attacken mit -2 save)

    hart zu knacken ohne beschuss da man sie sehr selten angreifen wird... und der ersten schlag der oger zu überleben .... wird wohl recht wenigen armeen gelingen...

    also finde ich die 35P durchaus gerechtfertigt
    Gute Elfen kommen in den Himmel...
    Böse kommen überall hin!


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    Warhammer 40k - Eldar, Cadia
    Mordheim - Skaven, Amazonen
    BloodBowl - Amazonian Angels, Mourning Munchies (Halflings)
    Epic Armageddon - Orkzä , Eldar, Imps

    --Even a SIG ain't what it seems to be :D --
    Nu ich denke, was wirklich den Ausschlag geben wird, sind all diese "Drumherum" Regimenter von Gnoblars und was die so können - die Oger selbst sind eine bekannte Größe.

    Denn bislang habe ich noch keine Plänkler in der Armee gesehen :D...oh scheibe, die Yetis werden wohl "plänkeln auf 7"...autsch...
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    Original von Druchii
    Am coolsten wärs ja, wenn der erwachsene ungefähr die Größe von nem Mammukil wie in Herr der Ringe erreicht! Das wär cool!:D Bischen umbauen und du hast zB.: nen Squigofanten oder ne Schwarze Arche !:D



    naja, es gibt eh Modelle für wirklich Riesige Reittiere ^^

    chaos Kriegsmamut von forgeworld



    und noch n bildchen

    luck beats everything

    WHFB:
    Dämonen: ~5000
    40K:
    Tyraniden: ~1500++
    Witchhunters: ~1500++
    Weiss nicht, Bernhard, ich denke "Kundschafter" ja, aber "Plänkler" wohl nicht. Aber die Yetis reichen dann auch.

    Ein Zusatz..


    This is where the special rule comes in. Ogres can have ranks. Every rank counts as +2 to combat res instead of +1 though up to a max of +3.
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    200 Pfund....-_-' Somit entfällt diese Option. Wär allerdings blöd, wenn die Riesenausgabe von dem Rhinox auch so viel kostet. *Sieht seine Pläne zu Staub zerfallen*
    Die Oger werden eigentlich ne teure Armee, oder? Ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, das ne Box mit Plastikogern unter 40 Euro zu haben sein wird...
    sry ich weiss das mamut is nicht wirklich major topic aber:

    mamut is aus plastik (also nicht so schwer) Punkte 600 (ohne manschaft) und ist ne Optionale Einheit (ergo wird man es eh nie spielen ^^ wer sagt scho ja zu S10 w7 und 12 lp ^^
    luck beats everything

    WHFB:
    Dämonen: ~5000
    40K:
    Tyraniden: ~1500++
    Witchhunters: ~1500++
    ich wenn ich waldelfen spiele :D

    ne aber scherz beiseite.. grosse modelle sind zwar schön aber leider unbezahlbar ... zmindest für normalsterbliche...

    @Ogerbox: ich denke 6 stck plastik um 25 euro sind durchaus drin... teuer wirds erst bei den special units... UND: 6 oger bringen nix.. ne starke einheit hat 8 ne kleine 4... also brauchst schon mal 2 boxen für sinnvolle einheiten (1x8 , 2x4) und das sind wieder 25 -> bald 30 euro x2 also 60 euro... klingt für 1-2 kerneinheiten nicht nett...
    Gute Elfen kommen in den Himmel...
    Böse kommen überall hin!


    Warhammer Fantasy: Darkelves, Chaos
    Warhammer 40k - Eldar, Cadia
    Mordheim - Skaven, Amazonen
    BloodBowl - Amazonian Angels, Mourning Munchies (Halflings)
    Epic Armageddon - Orkzä , Eldar, Imps

    --Even a SIG ain't what it seems to be :D --
    ne aber scherz beiseite.. grosse modelle sind zwar schön aber leider unbezahlbar ... zmindest für normalsterbliche...


    Und für ein so teures Modelle musst schon ein guter Maler sein sonst ist es hinausgeschmissenes Geld. Daher bin ich leider noch viel zu weit von so einen Modell entfernt als das ich es dann nur als Briefbeschwerer benütze.
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    @Ogerbox: ich denke 6 stck plastik um 25 euro sind durchaus drin...


    korigiere 30.- ;)

    ich weiß nicht, werden zwar nicht so billig aber auch sicher nicht zu teuer, sind ja nicht so viel modelle und 8 oger würd ich nie aufstellen, erhalten ja keinen gliederbonus ;)

    weiß nicht, oger würden mich schon sehr reizen, aber wenn ich sie anfang wirds defentiv meine letzte army die ich dann locker angehen werde :))