Diskussionen rund ums ETC

      Diskussionen rund ums ETC

      Hallo,

      um die Bewerbungsthreads frei von Diskussionen zu halten aber dennoch eine breite Diskussionsplattform zu ermöglichen, eröffne ich hier einen Diskussionsthread rund ums ETC.

      Alle sind herzlich eingeladen, Fragen zu stellen, Infos zu posten und mitzudiskutieren!

      LG
      El Gungo


      WHFB:

      6500 Pkt Oger (bemalt)
      4000 Pkt Chaoszwerge (bemalt)
      8000 Pkt Zwerge (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Bretonen (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Dunkelelfen (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Krieger des Chaos (tlw bemalt)
      4000 Pkt Waldelfen (tlw bemalt)
      3500 Pkt Khemri (tlw bemalt)
      5000 Pkt Vampire (unbemalt)

      HORDES:
      200 Pkt Trollbloods (tlw bemalt)
      Hier der erste AC Draft.
      Kommentare verkneifei ch mir mal ...

      ETC 2015 - Army Restrictions
      Version - 1.0
      Status - Draft

      Rules changes
      Up to 2 Characters in a unit can get a 2+ "Look Out, Sir!" against Dwellers Below, Final Transmutation and Dreaded 13th. Normal requirements for Look Out, Sir! apply.

      BSBs can take all the equipment their unit type has access to as if they weren't BSBs.

      Simple Line of Site will be used instead of True Line of Sight as defined below:

      Terrain pieces are divided into ones that:
      - Block LoS: Hills, Buildings and impassable terrain.
      - Don't block LoS: all other terrain.

      Unit is considered to be in hard cover when:
      - Majority of unit's footprint is obscured from shooter's Line of Sight by one or more Interfering Unit(s) or LOS blocking terrain(s), as described on page 41 BRB
      - Unit is garrisoning a Building, as described on page 127 BRB
      - Majority of unit's front rank is defending an obstacle, as described on page 122 BRB and ETC FAQ 8.4. If the unit is being shot from the flank or the rear, treat the corresponding file or the last rank, respectively, as the front rank
      - Majority of unit's footprint is in Ruins

      Unit is considered to be in soft cover when:
      - Majority of unit's footprint is in or behind woods, as described on page 119 BRB

      Models shooting from hills or buildings don't get the hard cover penalty for shooting through interfering units, unless interfering the unit is also on hill.

      Units with majority of its models on hill do not receive hard cover for being shot at through interfering units, unless that part of the units which interferes is also on hill. Units with majority of its models on hill do not receive hard cover for being partially obscured from the shooter's LoS by the same hill they are on

      Large Targets can't claim cover for obstacles, ruins and interfering units, unless interfering unit is also a Large Target. Large Targets which shoot don't suffer any penalties for interfering units, unless interfering unit is also a Large Target.


      Magic Restrictions

      A maximum of 2 dice may be added to the power pool

      A 5 Dice Casting Cap will be in effect for all spells

      Lore of Death spells will have a 4 dice casting cap in effect

      The Lore of Shadow spell Mindrazor will have a 4 dice casting cap in effect

      The Lore of Hashut will have a 4 dice casting cap in effect

      Lore of undeath will be available to all wizards as follows :
      4 dice casting cap
      No ethereal units may be raised
      Raised units give up victory points

      Scenarios
      The following four scenarios will be used with the 20-0 scoring system as described below:-

      1: Battle line (normal game)

      2: Meeting engagement (no reserve rolls, all units deploy on the board as normal)

      3: Blood and glory - 150 vp's for first player break opponent, further 300 vp's if that player remains unbroken. (If all remaining fortitude is in one unit, the army is broken).

      4: King of the hill - the player that holds the center point of the table at the end of turn 6 receives an additional 300 vp's - to hold this a unit must have fortitude (excluding bsb and General).

      Before a game both players secretly pick which scenario they want to play,

      Player A then rolls a d6
      Roll of 1-2 - the game is played using the scenario player A chose
      Roll of 3-4 - the game is played using the scenario player B chose
      Roll of 5-6 - the game is played using the battle line scenario
      (Note players may select battleline as their choice)

      Army Building Restrictions
      All the Army building restrictions are applied only during the creation of the roster, and may be ignored during the game (for example, by joining characters to units or creating new units).

      The army lists allowed are those from any of the currently published GW Army Books, and The Legion of Azgorh from Tamurkhan.

      Undead Legions, the Legions of Chaos and any other End Times army lists are not allowed.

      Special or Named Characters that appear in army books are allowed - this excludes all characters that appear in End Times books. Special Charachter composition will be added to this pack

      Fozzrik’s Folding Fortress may not be taken.

      Units cannot be more than 450 points at the point of roster creation. This does not apply to characters.

      All army sizes are 2400 points unless stated otherwise in race specific composition below.

      Armies must be constructed on the following basis (in addition to any specific conditions imposed by their army book)

      Minimum of 3 units
      Minimum of 1 character that can be the army general
      Maximum of 50% of points spent on lords
      Maximum of 50% of points spent on heroes
      Minimum of 25% of points spent on core units
      Maximum of 50% of points spent on special units
      Maximum of 25% of points spent on rare choices

      A team consists of 8 players, each of which with an army from a different army list.

      The Lore of Death and the Standard of Discipline are mutually exclusive in any army list

      Beastmen
      Army size is 2700 points.

      Maximum unit size at roster creation excluding characters is increased to 550 points.

      May take Blight Kings of Nurgle from Warhammer End Times - Glotkin

      Marks of Chaos within the army as detailed below
      Mark of Khorne – As per Warriors of Chaos Book - 10 points for a character, monster, chariot or warbeast, 2 points for all other models

      Mark of Tzeentch – As per Warriors of Chaos Book - 10 points for a character, monster, chariot or warbeast, 2 points for all other models

      Mark of Nurgle – As per Warriors of Chaos Book - 10 points for a character, monster, chariot or warbeast, 2 points for all other models

      Mark of Slaanesh – As per Warriors of Chaos Book - 5 points for a character, monster, chariot or warbeast, 1 points for all other models

      Note that the Marks of Tzeentch, Nurgle and Slaanesh DO NOT allow wizards access to the corresponding lore from the Warriors of Chaos Book.

      May add up to 3 power dice to the pool instead of 2

      Brettonia
      Army size is increased to 2500 points


      Chaos Dwarves
      May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
      Each character using the Lore of Death – 1 choice
      Each HellCannon - 1 choice (3 choices with lore of death)
      Kdaii Destroyer – 2 choices
      Each DeathShrieker, Magma Cannon, Dreadquake Mortar or Iron Demon – 1 choice

      Dark Elves
      May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
      Each character using the Lore of Death – 2 choices
      Each unit of 5 Doomfire Warlocks – 1 choice
      Each unit of 6 or more Doomfire warlocks – 2 choices
      Each mounted dreadlord or master – 1 choice
      One or more repeater bolt throwers– 1 choice
      Each unit of dark riders after the second - 1 choice
      Standard of Discipline, Crown of Command – 1 Choice each
      More than 80 shots per turn - 2 choices


      Demons of Chaos
      May take Blight Kings of Nurgle from Warhammer End Times - Glotkin
      May take Exalted Flamers

      May select up to 4 choices from the pool below:
      Lore of Death present in the army – 2 choices
      First Skullcannon – 1 choice
      Second Skullcannon – 3 choices
      Each Greater demon – 1 choice
      Each unit of Pink Horrors after the second – 1 choice
      Each unit of Plague Flies – 1 choice
      Up to 2/6/10 beasts of nurgle in the army - 1/2/3 choices


      Dwarves
      May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
      Each cannon, organ gun, Grudge Thrower or flame cannon - 1 choice each
      Each 2 (or part there of)gyrocopters after the first - 1 choice

      Empire
      May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
      Steam Tank – 1 choice
      Second Steam Tank – 4 choices
      Crown of Command, Standard of Discipline, War altar, Great Cannon – 1 choice each
      Third Great Cannon – 1 additional choice
      3 or more wizards using the Lore of Light - 1 choice
      Each unit of 4 or less Demi-Griffons – 1 choice
      Each unit of 5 or more Demi-Griffons – 2 choices

      High Elves
      May select up to 2 choices from the pool below:
      Mounted Banner of the World Dragon - 1 choice
      Second unmounted frostheart Phoenix - 1 choice
      3 or more mounted characters - 1 choice
      1 or more characters on the lore of death - 1 choice
      1 or more bolt throwers - 1 choice
      60 or more shots in the army - 1 choice

      Lizardmen
      May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
      Slann Mage Priest with Harmonic Convergence – 1 choice
      Second Slann Mage Priest – 1 choice
      Slann Mage Priest taking the Lore of Death – 1 choice
      Each mounted saurus character after the first – 1 choice
      Each flying unit after the second – 1 choice
      Each unit of core skirmishers after the third - 1 choice
      Each skink cohort after the third - 1 choice

      Orcs and Goblins
      Army size is increased to 2500 points

      Ogres
      May select up to 10 choices from the pool below:
      First Ironblaster - 1 choice
      Second Ironblaster – 6 choices
      The Hellheart - 2 choices
      The Runemaw, Dispel Scroll, Crown of Command - 1 choice each
      Each unit of maneaters with either sniper and /or stubborn – 1 choice
      1 or more sabretusks in the army - 1 choice
      1 or more Slaughtermasters in the army – 1 choice
      Each unit of gnoblars after the second – 1 choice
      Each 4 mounfang (or part there of) in the army – 1 choice
      Each character after the third – 2 choices


      Skaven
      Slave units can be a maximum of 60 models.

      May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
      First Warp-lightening Cannon - 1 choice
      Second Warp-lightening Cannon - 2 choices
      Each doomwheel -- 1 choice
      First Hellpit Abomination - 1 choice
      Second Hellpit Abomination - 2 choices.
      Stormbanner - 1 choice
      Stormbanner with 2nd Hellpit Abomination - 1 choice
      Each non wizard warplock Engineer after the first - 1 choice
      Each 40 slaves (or part there of) over 120 slave models - 1 choice
      Each 2 slave units(or part there of) after 3 -- 1 choice


      Tomb Kings
      Army size is increased to 2700 points.
      Maximum unit size at roster creation excluding characters is increased to 550 points.

      Army does not crumble upon the death of the Heirophant

      May include the following units from Warhammer End Times – Nagash
      Morghast Harbingers
      Morghast Archai

      May add up to 3 power dice to the pool instead of 2


      Vampire Counts
      May include the following units from Warhammer End Times – Nagash
      Morghast Harbingers
      Morghast Archai

      May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
      Terrorgheist – 1 choice
      2nd Terrorgheist – 3 choices
      Each character with Red Fury and/or Quickblood – 1 choice
      Each character using the Lore of Death - 1 choice
      Each ethereal character or unit – 1 choice
      Each unit of hexwraith after the 1st - 1 choice
      Each Scream after the first – 1 choice
      More than 10 crypt horrors in the army - 1 choice
      Each Direwolf and / or Fellbat unit after the fourth - 1 choice


      Warriors of Chaos
      May take Blight Kings of Nurgle from Warhammer End Times – Glotkin

      May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
      Each character using the Lore of Death – 1 choice (2 choices if it is a deamon prince)
      Each Demon Prince – 1 choice
      2+ or better save on a Demon Prince - 1 choice
      Each Demon Prince with Mark of Nurgle – 1 choice
      Exalted hero mounted on a demonic mount – 1 choice
      Model with a 3+ ward save and the third eye of tzeetnch - 2 choices
      HellCannon – 1 choice (2 with lore of death or tzeentch)
      2nd HellCannon – 2 choices (3 with lore of death or tzeentch)
      Each Chimera – 1 choice
      Each unit of Skullcrushers after the first – 1 choice
      Each Chariot after the second – 1 choice
      Each flying model after the third - 1 choice


      Wood Elves
      Where a pool choice relates to X models, this may be taken however is desired as long as this is within the legal unit sizes, e.g. 10 models of way watchers may be taken as either one unit of 10 or two units of 5.

      May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
      Each character using the Lore of Death – 1 choice (3 choices if 6 or more sisters of the thorn are present in an army)
      Each unit of Wild Riders after the first – 1 choice
      Each 10 Waywatchers (or part there of) - 1 choice
      Each 15 models (or part there of) equipped with trueflight arrows or hagbane arrows after the first - 1 choice
      Each Waystalker after the first – 1 choice
      Moonstone of the Hidden Ways – 1 choice (4 choices with lore of death)
      Es war einmal ein hässlicher Blaubarsch. Der war so hässlich, dass alle Leute gestorben sind. Ende
      Hero-Hammer yey :P

      Die Völker, die die besten Charaktermodelle aufstellen können, werden wohl dominieren
      Bin schon mal gespannt, ob Orgas von großen Turnieren in Österreich nun die 50% auch zulassen oder weiter verbieten (v.a. wenn gerade von den Top-Spielern in den letzten Jahren immer der Wunsch geäußert wurde, doch ETC-ähnliche Beschränkungen zu fahren...)

      Die Lehre des Untodes ist wohl da nur noch einen Bruchteil von dem Wert, was sie eigentlich könnte - nachdem die Einheiten Punkte abgeben, also wohl eher kein Thema.
      Waaaagh! Brazork

      ~ TEAM TIROL - ÖSTERREICHISCHER WHFB MEISTER 2007, 2008 UND 2009 ~
      Ich kann mir echt nicht vorstellen, dass die AC so bleibt...

      LG
      El Gungo


      WHFB:

      6500 Pkt Oger (bemalt)
      4000 Pkt Chaoszwerge (bemalt)
      8000 Pkt Zwerge (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Bretonen (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Dunkelelfen (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Krieger des Chaos (tlw bemalt)
      4000 Pkt Waldelfen (tlw bemalt)
      3500 Pkt Khemri (tlw bemalt)
      5000 Pkt Vampire (unbemalt)

      HORDES:
      200 Pkt Trollbloods (tlw bemalt)
      Der Wunsch der ETC-Spieler ist natürlich legitim, aber ob sich da wirklich alle Turnierorgas von der AC her "Reinreißen" lassen müssen/wollen, ist schwer zu sagen. Lehre des Untodes, Herohammer und auch noch die beknackten Szenarien ist mMn schon jedes allein ein Turnierkiller.
      I've got the key to the gates of paradise, but I've got too many legs.
      Original von Princess Sparkle
      Das hat ein Draft 1 so an sich, dass er nicht so bleibt... die Richtung wird aber fix beibehalten.


      Mir ist klar dass die genaue AC so nicht bleibt, meine Anspielung bezog sich auf einige eigenartige Dinge wie Szenarien, special Chars und die teilweise Vermengung mit den neuen Zusatzbüchern (siehe TM und Khemri zB).

      LG
      El Gungo


      WHFB:

      6500 Pkt Oger (bemalt)
      4000 Pkt Chaoszwerge (bemalt)
      8000 Pkt Zwerge (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Bretonen (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Dunkelelfen (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Krieger des Chaos (tlw bemalt)
      4000 Pkt Waldelfen (tlw bemalt)
      3500 Pkt Khemri (tlw bemalt)
      5000 Pkt Vampire (unbemalt)

      HORDES:
      200 Pkt Trollbloods (tlw bemalt)
      warum sollte man aber nicht in der österreichischen szene die lehre des untodes, und die kommandanten erhöhung in die AC aufnehmen ??

      denke das es ja nur eine frage der zeit ist bis die neue Edition erscheint und sich so manches vermutlich nicht mehr ändert, sollte man sich da nicht schon mal drauf einstellen.

      sollte nicht sowieso auch international geschaut werden, man will ja ein gewisses Niveau halten oder ausbauen.
      Ich befürchte auch, dass uns die neue Edition dann so etwas in X-Large bringen wird!

      Gut finde ich das trotzdem nicht, was Szenarien am ETC zu suchen haben, kann ich nicht wirklich nachvollziehen, ist aber der Wunsch der verantwortlichen Leute am ETC.

      Egal welche AC, wir werden sehen, dass wir best vorbereitet mit einem schlagkräftigen Team in das Turnier gehen!

      LG
      El Gungo


      WHFB:

      6500 Pkt Oger (bemalt)
      4000 Pkt Chaoszwerge (bemalt)
      8000 Pkt Zwerge (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Bretonen (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Dunkelelfen (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Krieger des Chaos (tlw bemalt)
      4000 Pkt Waldelfen (tlw bemalt)
      3500 Pkt Khemri (tlw bemalt)
      5000 Pkt Vampire (unbemalt)

      HORDES:
      200 Pkt Trollbloods (tlw bemalt)
      Original von lord odin
      warum sollte man aber nicht in der österreichischen szene die lehre des untodes, und die kommandanten erhöhung in die AC aufnehmen ??


      Weil minderwertige Kampagnenregeln mMn auf einem Turnier nichts verloren haben. Offensichtlicher wird das beim nächsten End Times Buch.
      Konstanz ist immer ein Thema. Manchmal funktioniert sie, manchmal nicht.
      Original von Princess Sparkle
      Offensichtlicher wird das beim nächsten End Times Buch.


      Weiß man da schon was?


      Grundsätzlich find ich es schon spannend, durchzuüberlegen, was mit 50% Chars und BCMs möglich ist. Ich denke, dass es für viele gar nicht allzuviel ändert. Bei manchem (Drippel Dämonenprinz ...) muss man natürlich aufpassen.

      Ob ichs dann wirklich auf einem kompetitiven Turnier sehen will ist wieder was anderes. Ich befürchte halt, dass der komplett neue Ansatz verhindert, dass wir zeitnah eine AC haben. Wir sind weit weg, eine ausgeglichene AC zu haben und zumindest etablierte Standard-Beschränkungen (max. 3x die gleiche Auswahl, maximale Modelle pro Einheit ...) hätten sie schon gleich einbauen können
      Es war einmal ein hässlicher Blaubarsch. Der war so hässlich, dass alle Leute gestorben sind. Ende
      Yo die Elfen bekommen defacto ihr Buch samt Figuren!

      LG
      El Gungo


      WHFB:

      6500 Pkt Oger (bemalt)
      4000 Pkt Chaoszwerge (bemalt)
      8000 Pkt Zwerge (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Bretonen (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Dunkelelfen (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Krieger des Chaos (tlw bemalt)
      4000 Pkt Waldelfen (tlw bemalt)
      3500 Pkt Khemri (tlw bemalt)
      5000 Pkt Vampire (unbemalt)

      HORDES:
      200 Pkt Trollbloods (tlw bemalt)
      Ich sehe mit Freuden, dass es schon 7 Spieler-Bewerbungen gibt! :)

      Bitte bei allen Bewerbungen nur die 2 Favoritenarmeen nennen, auch wenn einige sicher mehrere Armeen spielen können. Wir haben uns bewusst dafür entscheiden nur 2 Nennungen zu verlangen, auch um auf den Bootcamps zielgerichteter zu einer Teamfindung zu kommen. Im Einzelfall kann es dann sicherlich Änderungen geben, je nach AC und Situation.

      Wir freuen uns über die bereits abgegebenen Bewerbungen und auch auf alle die noch folgen werden!

      LG
      El Gungo


      WHFB:

      6500 Pkt Oger (bemalt)
      4000 Pkt Chaoszwerge (bemalt)
      8000 Pkt Zwerge (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Bretonen (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Dunkelelfen (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Krieger des Chaos (tlw bemalt)
      4000 Pkt Waldelfen (tlw bemalt)
      3500 Pkt Khemri (tlw bemalt)
      5000 Pkt Vampire (unbemalt)

      HORDES:
      200 Pkt Trollbloods (tlw bemalt)
      Original von El Gungo
      Das ÖTT wird heuer ebenfalls wieder mit den (sofern dann vorhandenen) ETC-Beschränkungen gespielt um uns möglicher

      genau das finde ich sehr schade. :(

      vielleicht folgt von mir ja noch eine Bewerbung, vermutlich aber wohl erst nach den Frosties - persönliche WHFB-Laune ist im Moment gerade nicht sooo hoch. ;)
      Waaaagh! Brazork

      ~ TEAM TIROL - ÖSTERREICHISCHER WHFB MEISTER 2007, 2008 UND 2009 ~
      Das ÖTT wird jetzt eh wohl eine eigene AC bekommen, also hat sich dieser Satz von mir erübrigt.

      Ja, ich hoffe Deine Fantasymotivation steigt wieder, wir könnten einen guten Khemrispieler im erweiterten Teamkader der Bootcamps gut brauchen! Da bist Du für mich natürlich der Wunschkandidat!

      LG
      El Gungo


      WHFB:

      6500 Pkt Oger (bemalt)
      4000 Pkt Chaoszwerge (bemalt)
      8000 Pkt Zwerge (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Bretonen (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Dunkelelfen (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Krieger des Chaos (tlw bemalt)
      4000 Pkt Waldelfen (tlw bemalt)
      3500 Pkt Khemri (tlw bemalt)
      5000 Pkt Vampire (unbemalt)

      HORDES:
      200 Pkt Trollbloods (tlw bemalt)
      fein, danke!

      Naja, aus meiner Sicht sind die Khemri-Beschränkungen im vergangenen Jahr in eine gute Richtung gegangen. So gesehen macht mir das Spielen der Armee nach wie vor Spaß.

      Ich werd mir nach Weihnachten mal den aktuellen Draft ansehen und dann entscheiden, ob die Knochenmänner in dem Umfeld was können, aus meiner Sicht durch die rosarote Brille eben. :P
      Waaaagh! Brazork

      ~ TEAM TIROL - ÖSTERREICHISCHER WHFB MEISTER 2007, 2008 UND 2009 ~

      Dieser Beitrag wurde bereits 1 mal editiert, zuletzt von „Brazork“ ()

      Draft 1, es wird nicht wirklich besser:

      Rules changes
      Up to 2 Characters in a unit can get a 2+ "Look Out, Sir!" against Dwellers Below, Final Transmutation and Dreaded 13th. Normal requirements for Look Out, Sir! apply.

      BSBs can take all the equipment their unit type has access to as if they weren't BSBs.

      Units fleeing at the end of the game and/or below 25% of starting models yield 50% of their VPs.

      Simple Line of Site will be used instead of True Line of Sight as defined below:

      Terrain pieces are divided into ones that:
      - Block LoS: Hills, Buildings and impassable terrain.
      - Don't block LoS: all other terrain.

      Unit is considered to be in hard cover when:
      - Majority of unit's footprint is obscured from shooter's Line of Sight by one or more Interfering Unit(s) or LOS blocking terrain(s), as described on page 41 BRB
      - Unit is garrisoning a Building, as described on page 127 BRB
      - Majority of unit's front rank is defending an obstacle, as described on page 122 BRB and ETC FAQ 8.4. If the unit is being shot from the flank or the rear, treat the corresponding file or the last rank, respectively, as the front rank
      - Majority of unit's footprint is in Ruins

      Unit is considered to be in soft cover when:
      - Majority of unit's footprint is in or behind woods, as described on page 119 BRB

      Models shooting from hills or buildings don't get the hard cover penalty for shooting through interfering units, unless interfering the unit is also on hill.

      Units with majority of its models on hill do not receive hard cover for being shot at through interfering units, unless that part of the units which interferes is also on hill. Units with majority of its models on hill do not receive hard cover for being partially obscured from the shooter's LoS by the same hill they are on

      Large Targets can't claim cover for obstacles, ruins and interfering units, unless interfering unit is also a Large Target. Large Targets which shoot don't suffer any penalties for interfering units, unless interfering unit is also a Large Target.


      Magic Restrictions

      A maximum of 2 dice may be added to the power pool

      A 5 Dice Casting Cap will be in effect for all spells

      Lore of Death spells will have a 4 dice casting cap in effect

      The Lore of Shadow spell Mindrazor will have a 4 dice casting cap in effect

      The Lore of Hashut spell AshStorm will have a 4 dice casting cap in effect

      Lore of undeath will be available to all wizards as follows :
      4 dice casting cap
      No ethereal units may be raised
      Raised units give up victory points

      Scenarios
      The following four scenarios will be used with the 20-0 scoring system as described below:-

      1: Battle line (normal game)

      2: Meeting engagement (no reserve rolls, all units deploy on the board as normal)

      3: Blood and glory - 150 vp's for first player break opponent, further 300 vp's if that player remains unbroken. (If all remaining fortitude is in one unit, the army is broken).

      4: King of the hill - the player that holds the center point of the table at the end of turn 6 receives an additional 300 vp's - to hold this a unit must have fortitude (excluding bsb and General).

      Before a game both players secretly pick which scenario they want to play,

      Player A then rolls a d6
      Roll of 1-2 - the game is played using the scenario player A chose
      Roll of 3-4 - the game is played using the scenario player B chose
      Roll of 5-6 - the game is played using the battle line scenario
      (Note players may select battleline as their choice)

      Army Building Restrictions
      All the Army building restrictions are applied only during the creation of the roster, and may be ignored during the game (for example, by joining characters to units or creating new units).

      The army lists allowed are those from any of the currently published GW Army Books, and The Legion of Azgorh from Tamurkhan.

      Undead Legions, the Legions of Chaos and any other End Times army lists are not allowed.

      Special or Named Characters that appear in army books are allowed - this excludes all characters that appear in End Times books. Special Charachter composition will be added to this pack

      Fozzrik’s Folding Fortress may not be taken.

      Units cannot be more than 450 points at the point of roster creation. This does not apply to characters.

      All army sizes are 2400 points unless stated otherwise in race specific composition below.

      Armies must be constructed on the following basis (in addition to any specific conditions imposed by their army book)

      Minimum of 3 units
      Minimum of 1 character that can be the army general
      Maximum of 50% of points spent on lords
      Maximum of 50% of points spent on heroes
      Minimum of 25% of points spent on core units
      Maximum of 50% of points spent on special units
      Maximum of 25% of points spent on rare choices

      A team consists of 8 players, each of which with an army from a different army list.

      A wizard generating spells from lore of death and the Standard of Discipline are mutually exclusive in any army list




      Beastmen
      Army size is 2700 points.

      Maximum unit size at roster creation excluding characters is increased to 550 points.

      May take Blight Kings of Nurgle from Warhammer End Times - Glotkin

      Marks of Chaos within the army as detailed below
      Mark of Khorne – As per Warriors of Chaos Book - 10 points for a character, monster, chariot or warbeast, 2 points for all other models
      Mark of Tzeentch – As per Warriors of Chaos Book - 10 points for a character, monster, chariot or warbeast, 2 points for all other models
      Mark of Nurgle – As per Warriors of Chaos Book - 10 points for a character, monster, chariot or warbeast, 2 points for all other models
      Mark of Slaanesh – As per Warriors of Chaos Book - 5 points for a character, monster, chariot or warbeast, 1 points for all other models
      Note that the Marks of Tzeentch, Nurgle and Slaanesh DO NOT allow wizards access to the corresponding lore from the Warriors of Chaos Book. Wizards with a mark have access to the same lores of magic as unmarked beastmen wizards (Shadow, Beasts, Death, Beastmen)

      May take any beastmen special characters.


      Brettonia
      Army size is increased to 2500 points

      May take any Brettonian special characters.

      Chaos Dwarves
      May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
      Each character using the Lore of Death – 1 choice
      Each HellCannon - 1 choice (3 choices with lore of death)
      Kdaii Destroyer – 2 choices
      Each DeathShrieker, Magma Cannon, Dreadquake Mortar or Iron Demon – 1 choice
      Each 2(or part of 2) hobgoblin khans after the first 2 - 1 choice
      Chalice of Blood and Darkness (may be used only before casting a spell) - 1 choice

      May take any Chaos Dwarf special characters.

      Dark Elves
      May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
      Each character using the Lore of Death – 2 choices
      Each 5(or part of 5) Doomfire Warlock models – 1 choice
      Each mounted dreadlord or master – 1 choice
      One or more repeater bolt throwers– 1 choice
      Each unit of dark riders after the second - 1 choice
      Standard of Discipline, Crown of Command – 1 Choice each
      More than 80 shots per turn (Repeater bolt throwers count as 6 shots) - 2 choices
      Morathi - 4 choices (Lore of Death choice is included)
      Malekith - 2 Choices
      Shadowblade - 1 choice

      May take any Dark Elf special characters.

      Demons of Chaos
      May take Blight Kings of Nurgle from Warhammer End Times - Glotkin- these models are not demonic and therefore may not be joined by any model with the demonic special rule. If the general and / or BSB have the mark of Nurgle they may benefit from them.

      May take Exalted Flamers

      May select up to 4 choices from the pool below:
      Lore of Death present in the army – 2 choices
      First Skullcannon – 1 choice
      Second Skullcannon – 3 choices
      Each Greater demon(Including Skarsbrand, Ku’gath) – 1 choice
      Each unit of Pink Horrors after the second – 1 choice
      Each unit of Plague Flies – 1 choice
      Up to 2/6/10 beasts of nurgle in the army - 1/2/3 choices
      Kairos Fateweaver - 4 choices
      The Blue Scribes - 1 choice
      Epidemius - 1 choice + 1 choice per unit of demons of nurgle.

      May take any Demons of Chaos special characters.

      Dwarves
      May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
      Each Cannon, Organ gun, Grudge Thrower or Flame cannon - 1 choice each
      Each 2 (or part there of) gyrocopters after the first - 1 choice
      Grimm Burloksson - 1 choice

      May take any Dwarf special characters.


      Empire
      May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
      Steam Tank – 1 choice
      Second Steam Tank – 4 choices
      Crown of Command, Standard of Discipline, War altar, Great Cannon – 1 choice each
      Third Great Cannon – 1 additional choice
      3 or more wizards using the Lore of Light - 1 choice
      Each unit of 4 or less Demi-Griffons – 1 choice
      Each unit of 5 or more Demi-Griffons – 2 choices
      Balthasar Gelt - 1 choice
      ·
      May take any Empire special characters.

      High Elves
      May select up to 2 choices from the pool below:
      Banner of the World Dragon - 1 choice
      Each frostheart Phoenix above one - 1 choice
      3 or more mounted characters - 1 choice
      1 or more characters on the lore of death - 1 choice
      (Loremaster(s) of Hoeth do not count towards this)
      1 or more bolt throwers - 1 choice
      60 or more shots in the army (Repeater bolt throwers count as 6 shots) - 1 choice
      Teclis - 2 choices
      Alarielle - 2 choices

      May take any High Elf special characters.

      Lizardmen
      May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
      Slann Mage Priest with Harmonic Convergence – 1 choice
      Second Slann Mage Priest – 1 choice
      Slann Mage Priest taking the Lore of Death – 1 choice
      (Slann Mage Priests with the Wandering Deliberations do not count towards this)
      Each mounted saurus character after the first – 1 choice
      Each flying unit/character after the third – 1 choice
      Each unit of core skirmishers after the third - 1 choice
      Each skink cohort after the third - 1 choice
      Lord Mazdamundi - 1 choice
      Lord Kroak - 2 choices
      Tetto’Eko - 3 choices
      ·
      May take any Lizardmen special characters

      Orcs and Goblins
      Army size is increased to 2500 points

      May take any Orcs and Goblins Special Characters


      Ogres
      May select up to 10 choices from the pool below:
      First Ironblaster - 1 choice
      Second Ironblaster – 6 choices
      The Hellheart - 2 choices
      The Runemaw, Dispel Scroll, Crown of Command, Standard of Disc - 1 choice each
      Each unit of maneaters with either sniper and /or stubborn – 1 choice
      1 or more sabretusks in the army - 1 choice
      1 or more Slaughtermasters in the army – 1 choice
      Each unit of gnoblars after the second – 1 choice
      Each 4 mounfang (or part there of) in the army – 1 choice
      Each character after the third – 2 choices
      Skragg - 1 choice (for being a slaughtermaster)

      May take any Ogres Special Characters


      Skaven
      Slave units can be a maximum of 60 models.

      May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
      First Warp-lightening Cannon - 1 choice
      Second Warp-lightening Cannon - 2 choices
      Each doomwheel -- 1 choice
      First Hellpit Abomination - 1 choice
      Second Hellpit Abomination - 2 choices.
      Stormbanner - 1 choice (2 choices with double hellpit Abomination)
      Each non wizard warplock Engineer after the first - 1 choice
      Each 40 slaves (or part there of) over 120 slave models - 1 choice
      Each 2 slave units(or part there of) after 3 -- 1 choice

      May take any Skaven Special Characters

      Tomb Kings
      Army size is increased to 2700 points.

      Maximum unit size at roster creation excluding characters is increased to 550 points.

      Army does not crumble upon the death of the Heirophant

      May include the following units from Warhammer End Times – Nagash
      Morghast Harbingers
      Morghast Archai

      May add up to 3 power dice to the pool instead of 2 if an army does not include Arkhan

      May take any Tomb Kings Special Characters


      Vampire Counts
      May include the following units from Warhammer End Times – Nagash
      Morghast Harbingers
      Morghast Archai

      May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
      Terrorgheist – 1 choice
      2nd Terrorgheist – 3 choices
      Each character with Red Fury and/or Quickblood – 1 choice
      Each character using the Lore of Death - 1 choice
      Each ethereal character or unit – 1 choice
      Each unit of hexwraith after the 1st - 1 choice
      Each Scream after the first – 1 choice
      More than 10 crypt horrors in the army - 1 choice
      Each Direwolf and / or Fellbat unit after the fourth - 1 choice
      Count Mannfred - 2 choices (including death)

      May take any Vampire Counts Special Characters

      Warriors of Chaos
      May take Blight Kings of Nurgle from Warhammer End Times – Glotkin

      May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
      Each character using the Lore of Death – 1 choice (2 choices if it is a deamon prince)
      Each Demon Prince – 1 choice
      2+ or better save on a Demon Prince - 1 choice
      Each Demon Prince with Mark of Nurgle – 1 choice
      Exalted hero mounted on a demonic mount – 1 choice
      Model with a 3+ ward save and the third eye of tzeetnch - 2 choices
      HellCannon – 1 choice (2 with lore of death or tzeentch)
      2nd HellCannon – 2 choices (3 with lore of death or tzeentch)
      Each Chimera – 1 choice
      Each unit of Skullcrushers after the first – 1 choice
      Each Core chariot after the second – 1 choice
      Each flying model after the second - 1 choice
      Archaon - 2 choices
      Galrauch - 1 choice
      Vilitch - 1 choice
      Throgg - 3 choices

      May take any Warriors of Chaos Special Characters

      Wood Elves
      All limits are about models, you can spread them anyway you like among units, unless otherwise specified.

      May select up to 5 choices from the pool below:
      Each character using the Lore of Death – 1 choice (3 choices if 6 or more sisters of the thorn are present in an army)
      Each unit of Wild Riders after the first – 1 choice
      Each 10 Waywatchers (or part there of) - 1 choice
      Each 15 models (or part there of) equipped with trueflight arrows or hagbane arrows after the first 15 models - 1 choice
      Each Waystalker after the first – 1 choice
      Moonstone of the Hidden Ways – 1 choice (4 choices with lore of death)
      Sisters of Twilight - 1 choice

      May take any Wood Elf Special Characters
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