Dark elves rumours

      Original von Yersinia pestis


      natfka.blogspot.co.at/2013/09/dark-elf-compilation.html

      via Zion over at Talkwargaming
      talkwargaming.com/2013/09/dark-elves-rumor-roundup.html
      Many thanks to the folks on Warseer, DakkaDakka and 40k Radio for the original information.
      Everything in quotation marks is a verbatim quote of the original rumor, everything else is as close as possible, but polished up a bit for easier reading.

      Predicted Release: October/November/October-November 2013
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      General Information

      Aesthetic seems to be focused on them being a more sinister version of the High Elves with spikes and jagged edges on the armor.
      Temple of Khaine Artifacts are still in the book. No word on if there are new poisons or not.
      New plastic banners do not appear to have any designs sculpted onto them.

      New Rules

      Gain the Always Strikes First special rule like their High Elf cousins.

      Special Characters

      Lords

      Crone Hellebron is the only character 40k Radio has seen images of at this time. She is a little more armored than a normal Witch Elf and wears a little more clothing. She carries a sword and a small blade. "She definitely has the big hair like in her artwork in the current army book". She looks young, like a regular Witch Elf and wears a gold mask over her face that extends upwards in a "crown like fashion". Both of her arms are raised towards the sky.

      Heroes

      Cauldron of Blood is now a larger model with hooks and chains but is "a bit toned down" compared to the Empire Celestial Hurricanium/Lumniark of Hysh. It has six wheels and two staircases. It doesn't have any models pulling it so speculation is that it might be pushed like the Screaming Bell. It has three Witch Elves on it, with "spikes and blades". They're described to be dressed in what looks to be loincloths and bras, and appear "vicious". The statue of Khaine that stands behind the Hag has his sword held aloft.

      Core

      Warriors changed in design. Helmets no longer cover their eyes and now have cloaks. The cloaks hang down from beneath the shoulder armor and cover the back chain mail when looking at them from behind. They also have skulls embossed on their shields.
      Dark Rider have "sleek-looking horses with only a bit of armor" and the cloaked riders are hunched in the saddle to give the feeling that their fast moving calvary while presenting a low profile. Helmets appear to be open-faced, and can be armed with spears. No word if they can get crossbows at this time.
      Assassins got a buff. Not clear if it's improved Hidden rules or an improved Save at this time.

      Special

      Executioners have skull-faced helms. Their armor is bright silver with red tunics in the WD. They all hold the Draiches (swords) on the left side of their body (that is your right when looking at them from the front). Their armor appears to be a mixture of plate and chain mail. Champion is armed with an axe and is holding the decapitated head of a High Elf in the pictures.
      Witch Elves have 2 hand weapons in the White Dwarf.
      Blackguard look very "stalwart" with large halberds, and high helms that have 3 spikes on each side of them with a flowing plume on top. Their armor is black and trimmed gold and they wear dark purple cloaks. The unit Champion is holding a sword by the hilt with the blade planted in the ground. Their musician is a drummer. Their helmets do not cover their faces, and their armor has bulkier shoulders.
      Cold One Chariot looks very sleek with the wheels towards the rear of the chariot and the body low to the ground. The Cold Ones pulling the chariot match the Cold One Knights.
      Witch Elves are armed with 2 hand weapons in the pictures and are "very dynamic with their poses". Each model has long, flowing hair, red loincloths, thigh-high black boots and "for lack of a better term bras". They also appear to have open mouth "so lord only knows what they're saying before they come in and hack my poor High Elves to bits". There does appear to be a command group for the unit.

      Rare

      Hydra is now beefier looking. The Hydra's 2 Handlers are mounted on the same base as the Hydra in the WD pictures.

      New Units

      Scroungerunner armed with spears and what appears to be a large crossbow or a bolt thrower. The crew "look similar to Corsairs". The passenger shooting the crossbow/bolt thrower has what appears to be a sea dragon cloak on. The reigns appear to be normal black leather and the horses look "awesome and angry". Both horses are black with red eyes. The chariot only has a single wheel that is centered on the back section. "And as usual nasty spikes and blades".
      Warlocks are bare chested with mundane looking hand weapons (one each), which are held in a reverse grip and resemble jagged daggers. The warlock champion's eyes are glowing which suggests at magical ability perhaps? The models have long flowing hair that ias painted white, and the rank/file models have black eyes (or possibly no eyes). There does not appear to be a full command group for the unit, just the unit champion.
      Kraken has has spines and scales with smoth flesh on the neck and underbelly. Was painted with the scales in Dark Grey and the softer flesh in blue. It does not have tentacles, but has four webbed appendages ending in claws and a tail. Has one main head with beady eyes above the mouth which has the lower jaw extending like an octopus tentacle with teeth. The four other necks end with fanged maws and claws that look to facilitate grabbing their next meal.
      Blood Throne shares the kit/chassis with the Cauldron of Blood. On the Throne itself sits something that looks "like a half-witch Elf, half Medusa, with snakes as hair". The Witch Elves on the Throne use spears and wear metal masks that cover most of their face, save for the chin/mouth and the eyes. The Medusa model has the lower body of a snake, and has snakes on her base. The right side of her torso is bare, to include her breast while armor covers her left side. In her right hand she holds a spear and her left hand is clad in a clawed gauntlet. Her mouth is agape and she has snakes for hair. Her body is also covered in a number of small cuts that drip blood. "There is a significant amount of blood on the model". Behind the Medusa appears to be a mirror depicting cavorting Witch Elves. It's painted to look like what appears to be a row of moons in a clear blue daytime sky ("i.e. the mirror "looks through to another world" type of thing is what they were going for, I guess")

      Model Releases

      Plastic Dark Elf Warrior Box (Makes Spearmen, Swordsmen and Crossbowmen)
      Plastic Dark Riders/Warlocks
      Plastic Blackguard/Executioers
      Plastic Cold One Chariot/Scroungerunner (which is pulled by horses)
      Plastic Cauldron of Blood/Blood Throne
      Plastic Hydra/Kraken
      Plastic Witch Elf Box
      "Unser ist der Zorn"
      Fotos sind hier (wenn auch unscharf)... Ich habs mal vom GeOrc geklaut ;)

      Blutkessel
      Krake
      Schattenklinge
      Krakenthron
      Krakenthron Details
      Blutkessel Details
      Hexen
      Hexen 2
      DominasDominas 2
      Speerträger
      Speerträger Details
      Schützen
      Die lächerlichste Hydra aller Zeiten

      Find ich alles nicht so mächtig. Vor allem die Hydra is zum lolen.
      Ich mag volle Gläser, die Straßen wenn sie leer. Ich mag die Tiere - Menschen nicht so sehr.
      LINDEMANN
      thx für die fotos

      Hexen gefallen mir gut, auch der Assasine
      Bei den dominas tue ich mir schwer, da kann ich kaum was erkennen

      aber für 10 modelle dann 40 wäre echt happig

      aber die Hydra ist echt ein No go.....
      da bin ich froh die alte zu haben

      die beiden DE Elfen auf dem thron gefallen mir auch....
      FSK 6 = Der Held ist ein Mädchen.
      FSK 12 = Der Held bekommt das Mädchen.
      FSK 16 = Der Bösewicht bekommt das Mädchen.
      FSK 18 = Jeder bekommt das Mädchen.
      Die zahnlose Hydra geht wohl bald in Pension... :(
      Der Rest gefällt mir sehr gut! Der Kessel und der Thorn sind echt Klasse designed!
      "Wart nur bis die neue Lumberjack Warscroll kommt. Und wenn Du in Deiner Herophase den Monty Python song singst, bekommst Du +1 auf Deine Angriffe gegen Bäume sofern Du selber das Friseurladengeländestück aufgestellt hast."
      Die Hydra ist eher gar nicht gelungen! Schade!

      Der Rest sieht ganz OK aus, mal sehen wie die Werte der einzelnen Modelle sind!

      LG
      El Gungo


      WHFB:

      6500 Pkt Oger (bemalt)
      4000 Pkt Chaoszwerge (bemalt)
      8000 Pkt Zwerge (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Bretonen (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Dunkelelfen (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Krieger des Chaos (tlw bemalt)
      4000 Pkt Waldelfen (tlw bemalt)
      3500 Pkt Khemri (tlw bemalt)
      5000 Pkt Vampire (unbemalt)

      HORDES:
      200 Pkt Trollbloods (tlw bemalt)
      Ich persönlich finde den Cauldron und den Throne ziemlich gut gelungen, die Hexen schauen auch top aus genau wie der Kraken :)

      Die Hydra finde ich ebenfalls eher enttäuschend im Vergleich zum alten Modell ein ziemlicher Fail....

      Die Krieger sind denke ich auch sehr hübsch, mir gefällt das der look den sie auch in der 5.Edition hatten :)

      Die Schützen sind auf den Bildern auch sehr hübsch bis auf die Tatsache dass es keine schießende Pose gibt so weit ich das erkennen kann....
      Naja.
      Die Hydra schaut wie eliot das schmunzelmonster aus, beim kharibdys hab ich keine Ahnung was die "köpfe" sein sollen, die witch elves haben einen bad hair day, die Autos bestehen vorwiegend aus treppen und sind auch nicht der bringer. Die medusa, shadowblade und die slaughter sisters sind aber grossartig. Letzteren sollten halt nackig sein ;)
      15mm: TYW Schweden, Griechen, Karthago, Numider, Römer, Celten/Briten/Germanen, Anglo danish, Naps Österreicher, FOW Bersaglieri, DAK, Russen, Franzen, Polen....

      28mm: 7yw Preu+Ö, Napo Franzen+Briten+Preussen+Bayern, Zulus, Koloniale Briten, ACW Union, 13. Jhdt Engländer/Schotten, WW1 Fra, WW2 Dt+Rus+Ita+Fra, div.

      WHF: 9

      40K: 8

      Viel anderes was Spass macht


      vivat-htt.at/
      Es gibt schöne und welche die daneben sind.

      Die Hydra sieht eher wie eine mehrköpfige Schlange aus. Das andere Monsterwesen gefällt mir besser
      Der Blutthron ist ok
      Schrein mit der Medus ist nice, Die Medusa finde ich richtig gut
      Speerträger sind sehr steif, dürften Details haben
      Witches sind soweit gut
      Shadowblade sieht sehr umfall gefährdet aus

      Mal warten auf Detail Bilder.


      Die nackerten dürften dann von Raging Heroes kommen. :]
      Mein Blog: Odinsmen
      Eliot das Schmunzelmonster! Ich wusste, dass mich das Modell an was erinnert! :D

      LG
      El Gungo


      WHFB:

      6500 Pkt Oger (bemalt)
      4000 Pkt Chaoszwerge (bemalt)
      8000 Pkt Zwerge (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Bretonen (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Dunkelelfen (bemalt)
      4500 Pkt Krieger des Chaos (tlw bemalt)
      4000 Pkt Waldelfen (tlw bemalt)
      3500 Pkt Khemri (tlw bemalt)
      5000 Pkt Vampire (unbemalt)

      HORDES:
      200 Pkt Trollbloods (tlw bemalt)
      Zu den Regeln:

      Army Wide Rules:
      - ASF (every elf)
      - Reroll result of 1 when rolling to wound (might be just a few units or army wide for dark elves, like Martial Prowess for HE)

      Magic:
      - 2 Signature spells like HE.
      - One of the spells (signature) goes off on a 8+ and grants a unit +1 strength and then you gain D3 power dice but if you gain 3 power dice this way the wizard suffers a wound with no saves allowed.
      - Black Horror; Vortex, S test or die.

      Lords and Heroes:
      - There will be additions to the choices of characters as for the HE.
      - Executioner, Corsair and Black Guard characters has ben mentioned.
      - The Medusa hasn't only been shown on the bloodthrone, but also with a normal base. Is this Special chararacter or now a normal character choice?

      Core:
      Spear Elves
      Crossbow Elves
      Sword Elves
      Witch Elves
      - Are now core!
      Dark Riders (most likely still core)
      Corsairs (most likely still core)

      Special:
      Hydra
      - Are now Special choice
      - Lost regen and can get normal breath weapon (S4) as an upgrade
      - Can get wounds back... somewhat like the slann (Although no details about actual rules of it)
      - Normal monster and handler rules

      Warlocks (Special or Rare)
      - 4+ ward
      - Cast spell like Pink Horrors. 2d6 S5 has been mentioned.
      - Comes with close combat weapon(s)

      Cold one Knights
      - Cold ones have two attacks after Lizardmen update

      Executioners
      - ASF + ASL = Striking on Initiative == WIN!
      - D3 Wounds (Might be when rolling 6 to wound instead of KB. Having D3 on all attacks would make them VERY powerful)

      Shades

      Cold one Chariots
      - Cold ones have two attacks after Lizardmen update

      Scroungerunner(or whatever its name is), (Special or Rare)
      - Pulled by horses
      - Bolt Thrower on it (Might be repeater and might be able to go without?). S7 has been mentioned.

      Black Guard (Special or Rare)


      Rare:
      Kharybdyss (Kraken)
      - Has 4 or 5 attacks (both has been mentioned). If all hits, and extra attack with multiple hits. S7.
      - Scaly skin, Terror and reroll successful LD for those in base contact.
      - Normal monster and handler rules

      Sisters of Slaughter:
      - Removes rank bonuses

      Reaper bolt throwers:
      - Lower points cost
      - S7 has been mentioned

      Big unknowns:
      - Cauldron of Blood and Bloodwrack Shrine. Most likely able to take as character choice for one or both. Will either be able to be taken as rare (like Coven Throne and Mortis Engine for VC)?
      - Bloodwrack Shrine has some sort of ranged attack. Cannonlike has been mentioned.
      "Wart nur bis die neue Lumberjack Warscroll kommt. Und wenn Du in Deiner Herophase den Monty Python song singst, bekommst Du +1 auf Deine Angriffe gegen Bäume sofern Du selber das Friseurladengeländestück aufgestellt hast."
      Liest sich wie eine sehr harte Glaskinnarmee mit extremen Schadensoutput. Die Sondernregeln von den Sisters of Slaughter ist nice auch Executioner klingen sehr spannend, mal schauen ob die noch immer unnachgiebig mit Kessel sind. Ansonsten S7 Speerschleuder nimmt man gerne mit. Alles in allem wirkt es insofern gebalanced, dass die Armee viel Potential hat, was man aber aufgrund der Fragilität spielerisch ein bisschen rauskitzeln muss. Auf den ersten Blick wirken sie ein wenig härter als die HE.

      Auf die Punktekosten der Warlocks bin ich gesapnnt. 2W6 S5 ist ein verdammt guter Spruch. Auch die Grundzauber der DE sind bretthart.

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