Original von TheDamnedAxe
das cover gefällt mir an sich schon ziemlich gut, nur das mir die hautfarben zu fleischig sind, so siehts halt aus wie gepiercte menschen mit tierköpfen und riesige gepiercte menschen mit tierköpfen.
ansonsten freu ich mich schon drauf^^

mfg Axe

Looks like there just tweeking pretty much the same list over and over again now. This one looks like it's going to be wrap. With just a minor twist here or there, but there a 90% chance this is what your going to see come late November/ December.

Lords:
Beastlord
Great Bray Shaman
Doombull [magicial weapons and mutations only]
note- Lords can buy Chaos Armour for 10 pts

Hero's:
Wargor
Bray Shaman
Centigor

Core:
Beast Herd [rank up 5 wide]
Bestigors
Centigors [fast cav]
Warhounds

Special:
Tuskgor Chariots [2-1 choice]
Minotaurs [become core choice with Doombull]
Chaos Ogres
Dragon Ogres

Rare:
Chaos Giant
Shaggoth
Spawns
Gorgon - [stat line: M8 WS5 S5 T5 W5 I3 5A]

New rule change: If your General decides not to ambush, your general can have the chance for Beast Herd units to scout. [roll a D6]
1-2: Beast Herds are drunk and do not Scout
3-4: 1 unit of Beast Herds can Scout
5-6: 2 units of Beast Herds can Scout

New models: Bestigors, Mino's, Dragon Ogre, Shamans, Beastlord/Wargor & Gorgon.

Lords can take 100 pts of magic items & 100 points of Chaos Mutations/Gifts. Hero's can take up to 50 points of magical items and 50 points of Chaos Mutations/Gifts.

Some interesting new items or Chaos Mutations/Gifts: [Mutations/Gifts can only be taken once]

* banner that turns Bestigors into Raider's like Beast Herds *
* breath gift * [breaths fire 25 pts]
* extra Two Arm Mutation * [adds +2 attacks to profile 50 pts]
* extra Horn * [adds a extra attack on the charge 20 pts]
* Hoof of Speed [double M5 model 30 pts]
* Stone Skin * [+2 to your armour save 25 pts]
* Staff of Darkoth is a bound item *
* Troll Hide * [50 pts for Regeneration]
* Unholy Beast Strength [+1S for 25 pts]
* Bloodstone Braystaff* [Arcane item that gives a +1LD to Shamans and +2 MR for 50 pts]

Spell Lores: Beasts of Nurgle, Slaanesh and Tzeentch are getting there own new lores. Very close to the WoC new lores with minor change to the lists. For Tzeentch player's I was told boon of Tzeentch is in there.

Inside thoughts from play tester's are: That a Doombull with Chaos Mutations can rival a Vampire Lord as a combat character now. Plus Chaos Armour & Stone Skin give him nice protection at 2+ armour save. He expects Doombull to be the most popular Lord choice!

Also by turning the Centigors into Fast Cav there no need to add flyers into a Beast of Chaos army. Between this move and the new Gorgon & Chaos Mutations, BoC should be able to compete very well in 7th edition.

I was told that they feel this list will pretty much go to print. That Games-Workshop and play testers are all happy with the end results so far. Will post more information as I get it. As I asked for the new lores so I can play test with my friends myself.

Original von Chaos Semmel
Auf warseer hab ich gelesen das:
es drachenoger nicht mehr geben soll...

Original von Chaos Semmel
Angeblich nicht

Die sollen laut ein paar aussagen in das neue oger buch kommen, aber mal schauen würde auch sinn ergeben ihrgend wie

Rules

Army-wide Special Rules, Magic Lores, and Magic Items

Ambush is supposedly staying much the same, though it has been suggested that it will no longer be dependant on the General.

No news on Unruly.

An "all new magic lore" (singular) has been promised. believed to be a consolidated version of the Lores of Chaos, but rather an entirely new "Lore of the Dark Forest".

Alongside Magic Items, "Mutations" will be available in the same way as WoC Gifts or Vampire Powers, operating on the same budgetary lines. Bonuses, like Scaly Skin, extra Strength and Movement are expected, as well as more esoteric abilities like Breath Weapons. Multiples of the same Mutation are expected to be allowed.

The traditional marking system may have been scrapped, in keeping with the less obvious devotion to the Godly "cults" of Chaos.

*Note, army-list slots are representative only until more solid rumours appear*

Lords & Heroes

Beastlord/Wargor ? Ld 9, T5, with appropriate price hikes. May take Chaos Armour. May be accompanied by a 'pet' US3 Beast Spawn.

Great Bray-Shaman/Bray-Shaman ? May be able to take a Herdstone, in the same manner as an Anvil/Casket. Beast Spawn as above.

Doombull? A metal box set release is confirmed; it is assumed that the Doombull will still allow Minotaurs as Core.

Centigor Hero - Aside from the Centigor Special Character, it has been rumoured that there will be a Centigor character available as a standard Hero choice. However, this may be a mutation rather than a seperate choice.

Daemon Prince? - No longer believed to be in the list.

Core

Beast Herds - No new models are expected, though Gors and Ungors are to be split into two seperate Plastic Boxes. Ranking issues to be fixed. Supposedly the champion will no longer provide +1Ld. Some sort of Scout option is believed to be available.

Bestigor Herds ? New Plastic Models.

Warhounds - Varieties of Warhounds allowed through upgrades - Hunting, Guarding, etc.

Centigor? ? Rumoured to be moved to Core. Fast Cavalry. Supposedly armour options will be available.

Special

Tuskgor Chariots ? Believed to be 2-4-1.

Minotaurs ? New plastic models. Believed to still be Core with Doombull.

Dragon Ogres? - Possibly dropped. On the one hand, they are thought not to 'fit' with the new Beasts 'feel'. On the other, plastic Dragon Ogres are also rumoured.

Chaos Trolls? - Very possibly dropped.

Harpies/Gargoyles/Gorgoyles - Rumoured flying infantry.

Razorgor - The previously mentioned "Gruulgor". A single model, reportedly similar in appearance to a warthog. Possibly a large Tuskgor.

Rare

Chaos Giant ? As in WoC book.

Spawn ? Assumed to be in WoC book. Possibility of slight changes.

Gorgon ? A new monster. Supposedly on a chariot-base, with Movement 8 and stats in the 5s, with Impact Hits and a Breathweapon. Model is probable, but unconfirmed.

Dragon Ogre Shaggoth? - Possibly dropped. Even less likely to appear than the Dragon Ogres.

Herdstone/Dark Heart? ? In the same vein as a Corpse Cart, Warshrine, and Screaming Bell, a Herdstone with the ability to buff nearby units might be expected. However, it may be an upgrade/"mount" for the Bray-Shaman. A "giant evil tree/corrupt treeman" has also been suggested, "dark heart of the forest" style.

I visited my local GW today and found an old colleague running the store as most of the regular staff were off with Manbearpig Flu.

We got on to the conversation of WFB and some of the forthcoming releases...

One of them being Beastmen.

He told me what to expect from the book and confirmed some things I had wondered about:

The Marks:

All exactly the same as WoC.

Special Characters:

Morghur.
Gorthor - allows Beastman Chariots as Core Choices
A special character Doombull - allows Minotaurs as Core Choices
Khazrak.
A special character Bestigor Upgrade.
A special character Centigor Upgrade.

Lords and Heroes:

Beastlord - can ride a Tuskgor or a larger Razorgor. Can have Marks.
Great Bray-Shaman - Can have a herdstone altar. Can have Marks.
Bray-Shaman. Can have Marks.
Doombull - Who doesn't allow Minotaurs as core choices. Can have Marks.
A hero level Beastlord. Can have Marks.
A hero level Doombull. Can have Marks.
Some sort of Beastmaster.
A lord that lets you have as many Bestigor units as you can field.

Core Choices:

Gors - Finally separate from Ungors, apparently Skirmish when not in combat, but then act as a full rank and file unit when in combat. These guys can have a musician. If i'm right about this, this means that these guys have a 360 degree LOS and are at -1 to hit from shooting and can still fight good fights??? Have light armour, can have HW and Shields or Additional HW. Cannot have Marks.

Ungor Skirmishers - Are basically cannon fodder. They have no unit upgrades except a champion. They Skirmish too. Apparently about as nasty as a Goblin, but with better WS and higher movement. Cannot have Marks.

Bestigor - You can only have one unit of these guys per unit of Gors. Str and Toughness 4. Can have Great Weapons, Additional HW or HW and Shields. Come with Heavy Armour. Can have Marks. These guys can hit pretty hard from what I've been told.

Ungor Trackers - Skirmishing scout unit. Braver than a regular Ungor unit. Can throw Javelins.

Chaos Warhounds - As WoC.

Special Choices:

Tuskgor Herd - A unit of Tuskgors led by a Gor. From what I can gather, similar to the Packmaster units in Skaven. They have a special rule called stampede that can backfire if they fail a panic check.

Tuskgor Chariot - Now have two Bestigor riding them. Can have Marks.

Centigor - Can now have Marks.

Minotaurs - As before but now have something similar to the Ogre Kingdoms Bull Charge. No longer have Bloodgreed. Come with 2 HW and can upgrade to GW. Can have Marks.

Rare Choices:

Mammoth - WTF??? A large Mammoth with several Gor/Ungor riding in it. I doubt this one very much.

Tuskgor Cavalry - This sounds awesome. Apparently Bestigor on a Tuskgor with a 2+ save if the riders have shields and they can hit really really hard. Can have Marks.

Chaos Giant - as WoC.

Spawn - as WoC.

Magic Items:

Apparently the Beasts get the worst magic list in the game. No confirmation on what they are though.

Magic Spells:

They get a complete overhaul of the current spell list. They also have their own version of the Lore of Beasts.

New Models:

The entire range except for the Characters, Ungor Trackers, Centigor and Tuskgor Chariot is plastic. PLASTIC MINOTAURS??? I wish

Now to clarify this, I didn't see the book, but this is from a former colleague who I worked with at GW for almost my entire tenure (at least 4 out of the 6 years) and he is has been right about rumours before.